Comments on: Standard or Did I screw these up?

By: gcinva

gcinva — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:28:55 +0000

I’m a little perplexed why you would push so early with either of these hands in a heads up situation. In the first scenario, even though you have the nut flush draw, you still have only ace high. It may have benefited you to just call his raise and see what came on the turn. On the second hand, you were right to get your money in to protect against flush draws, but you said it yourself that you thought the guy may have flopped the nuts, and your instincts were right. You should have let him take the lead in that hand

By: AK47

AK47 — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:03:00 +0000

btw, boogster, r u boogster mike on msn? i saw ur hand u posted on ur blog. i dunno how u didnt get it in sooner lol. btw, i also go to school to learn daytrading more or less. if u ever notice this, give me a shout sometime @ tomgreenismean@yahoo.ca.

By: AK47

AK47 — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:09:46 +0000

i like the responses z and hac. rather than debate against everyone’s opinion, i can say we’ve figured out the scenarios.

now, i just wanted to present some ‘what if’ scenarios:

what if, for the first hand, villain flats hero’s flop raise and the turn bricks after villain’s minbet?

and for the second hand: hero calls villain’s minraise. turn goes check check on a 7h. river is blank. what is our line here?

By: boogster

boogster — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:40:56 +0000

I don’t know…for the first hand, if he bets $0.50 into a $3.00 pot, I think that’s a gift to you. Take the free card, and the cheap draw instead of raising, for a chance of him pushing and you getting it all-in with just a draw. If he has a made hand, you’re at best 35%, roughly 2 to 1, with your 9 outs to a flush draw. Perhaps with one overcard, giving you another 3 outs, making it 45%. Regardless, you are still drawing, IF he has a made hand. By him underbetting that pot, I would normally just take the gift and see the turn for cheap. Now, if he bet $1.50 or $2, I would probably raise instead of just call.

With the second hand, you’re not going to be able to do much about that one, especially heads up. You could just check-call all the way down. Regardless, you are still going to lose money on this hand…it’s just how much.

By: B

Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:57:38 +0000

I’m not the greatest player by any means, but I wanted to share my thoughts on hand #2.

I definitely agree with Hac’s analysis, and think that calling and checking the turn is the best play in that situation. I do disagree about being happy getting it in for 100bb on the flop though. In my experience at the micros, when someone min raises, it’s usually indicative of a very strong hand or a pure bluff. If I shove in that spot, I don’t think I’m going to like his calling range that much. I actually think we’re close to flipping, and maybe even a little behind it in that spot. For that reason, Keeping some bluffs in his range increases our equity by a bunch. I just feel that villain’s range is so polarized there, I never really see guys min raising with TT in that spot. That said, I could very well be wrong, and with some reads on the villain maybe his calling range is wider. These are just my thoughts looking at the hand in a vacuum and assuming the villain has the generic “micro donk” style I’ve come across so often.

Also just want to say I’m a huge fan of the show, I think you guys have by far the best poker radio show out there!

By: Brody

Brody — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:57:38 +0000

Being a noob and armed with just enough information to felt myself, in Hand 1, I still don’t understand a shove. If we have enough of a read to suggest some sort of made hand (as EB said he thought at the time), why would the odds dictate a shove? Even if we assume that pairing the A would be good & have the NFD, I don’t see why a shove is good – particularly if there is little fold equity as Z said. Can we really expect that other lesser FD’s call an AI? And, if so, wouldn’t that be a terrible call by villain (with the exception of someone holding the 7c)? With lesser FD’s, wouldn’t we be still in the same position by calling & seeing a cheaper turn? If they go AI chasing the FD after the flop, wouldn’t they end up going AI after hitting the turn or river?

Not disagreeing with the rationale (I would say Z is a tad more accomplished than I am) – just trying to understand a bit better.

By: bret

bret — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:26:58 +0000

shane, i am def gonna take u up on that. i am ready to move on to HU cash. look out for the email, thx a ton!

it really is sick that the dangs are taking the time to talk and read over a few hands….then post about it.

By: bo

bo — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:24:57 +0000

To clarify, lets say you up 5 buy ins and you been playing a long time. Youre just a rec player and poker easily tilts you and its just about bed time. The way the game has been going, your gut tells you he might has A3s but you tell yourself I have KK! You were just about to log out and hit the sack anyways up 5 buyins. Envision how you will feel when he does have A3 in that spot and the pot is still small anyways. Fold and go to sleep up 5 feeling good about yourself. Even if you lose that hand you up 4 but my gut tells me you wouldnt sleep as great and you would and have work the next morning. Thats my only scenario for folding. (sorry for the runons)

By: bo

bo — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:14:32 +0000

RAm says he knows how to play right way and choose not to? donk! You know the professional relationships
EB is trying to build dont come on here disrepecting EB by saying, “suck heroes d!ck.” So stupid.

2nd hand at those stakes seeing he has bluffed here before I dont see how you can get away from that hand. The flow of the matches would determine if you find a spot to ever get away from the hand and even so i would nub guess 3% of the time you find a reason to fold. Just my opnion.

By: Shane

Shane — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:12:55 +0000

and the offer is open to Brett too. I don’t have alot of HU sng experience but just showing / teaching you HU cash I’m sure alot of things could transfer over.